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Post by stone on Mar 3, 2009 13:16:10 GMT -5
I just wanna know everyones top ten pound for pound fighters i think im gonna be a bit of the odd man out with my number one pick but here we go.
1. Miguel Torres 2. GSP 3. Anderson Silva 4. Fedor 5. BJ Penn 6. Mike Brown 7. Thiago Alves 8. Rashad Evans 9. Kenny Florian 10. Urijah Faber
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Post by Shooter on Mar 3, 2009 13:48:25 GMT -5
interesting. I'll have to work on mine and then I'll post it.
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Post by drusskane on Mar 3, 2009 14:10:55 GMT -5
P4P List
1. GSP 2. Anderson Silva 3. Fedor 4. Miguel Torres 5. Rashad Evans 6. BJ Penn 7. Thiago Alves 8. Rampage Jackson 9. Sean Shrek 10. John Fitch
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Post by jimmythomson on Mar 3, 2009 14:39:17 GMT -5
1. Fedor 2. Miguel Torres 3. GSP 4. Anderson Silva 5. Mike Brown 6. Thiago Alves 7. Rashad Evans 8. Rampage Jackson 9. BJ Penn 10. Couldn't decide on #10, I don't even feel BJ deserves to be up there. But he is more deserving than anyone else I can think of off the top of my head. If anyone comes to mind I'll be sure to change them up.
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Post by Warpath on Mar 3, 2009 17:25:36 GMT -5
1) Fedor 2) Anderson Silva 3) GSP 4) Mike Brown 5) BJ Penn 6) Lyoto Machida 7) Miguel Torres 8) Rashad Evans 9) Uriah Faber 10) Frank Mir
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Post by jimmythomson on Mar 3, 2009 18:11:37 GMT -5
1) Fedor 2) Anderson Silva 3) GSP 4) Mike Brown 5) BJ Penn 6) Lyoto Machida 7) Miguel Torres 8) Rashad Evans 9) Uriah Faber 10) Frank Mir I could see Mir if he beats Lesnar, and Machida if he wins his next fight (which will most likely be for a title). Faber is not worthy at the moment, at least that's how I feel. If he beats Brown then he'll be back in the rankings for me.
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Post by Smashin Machine on Mar 3, 2009 19:33:56 GMT -5
Faber doesn't belong? Seriously? The guy just demolished Pulver, and has only lost once in the last 3 years (and in those 3 fought about 15 times- that's a good amount of fights). His loss to Brown came from trying to get a bit too creative with the striking and Brown just connected with him at the right time. At 140 the kid is still king in my book and if and when he and Brown fight again I'm pretty sure Urijah would take it 9 times out of ten.
Like Shooter I'm going to have to post later after some careful consideration...
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stone
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Post by stone on Mar 4, 2009 7:42:06 GMT -5
i think when he lost to brown alot of question marks were raised about him. like how good he really is Dont get me wrong i think hes in my top ten see my list above however i could see why people would keep him out of the P4P list or even the top three for featherweight. (Brown, Kid, Garcia). I think his rematch with brown will be exciting if they dont give it to Aldo first. and even if they do i think that will be great to give a fighter like Aldo a huge test like brown. Aldo is good but i havent seen him fight a monster like brown yet.
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Post by jimmythomson on Mar 4, 2009 15:17:02 GMT -5
Faber doesn't belong? Seriously? The guy just demolished Pulver, and has only lost once in the last 3 years (and in those 3 fought about 15 times- that's a good amount of fights). His loss to Brown came from trying to get a bit too creative with the striking and Brown just connected with him at the right time. At 140 the kid is still king in my book and if and when he and Brown fight again I'm pretty sure Urijah would take it 9 times out of ten. Like Shooter I'm going to have to post later after some careful consideration... When was the last time Jens had a notable win? His last 3 wins were over Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, and Kenji Arai. His last significant win was over BJ Penn like what? 7 years ago? I just don't think someone like Faber deserves it at the moment. Like I said, he needs to beat Brown before he's considered for it in my book. This way everyone knows it was a fluke.
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Post by Smashin Machine on Mar 4, 2009 19:29:12 GMT -5
Faber ran into Brown's punch trying to throw a crazy-ass backwards no-look flying elbow. His hubris was his downfall in that fight. Brown still has more to prove to me than Faber does.
And even if Pulver's last significant win was a long time ago, that doesn't change the fact that Urijah Faber was to the featherweight division until 2 months ago what Matt Hughes was to the WW division when he was in his hey day. I'm not putting Pulver in my top 10 P4P, I'm talking about Faber here. Pulver is just a name on his list.
How fickle the fans are in the sport of MMA. You lose one fight and everyone turns their back on you.
What have you done for me lately I guess...
Also I just want to address anyone who DOESN'T have FEDOR as #1... What are you smoking and where can I get some of that?
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Post by jimmythomson on Mar 4, 2009 22:58:25 GMT -5
Alright, my argument wasn't Pulver being in the top 10, My argument was Pulver is hardly enough to qualify Faber for top 10 just yet. Yea he's good, but you make sloppy moves and it will make people think less of you. I still like Faber as a fighter, but I don't feel he deserves to be top 10 p4p until he erases that loss to Brown.
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Post by drusskane on Mar 5, 2009 21:35:39 GMT -5
Faber ran into Brown's punch trying to throw a crazy-ass backwards no-look flying elbow. His hubris was his downfall in that fight. Brown still has more to prove to me than Faber does. And even if Pulver's last significant win was a long time ago, that doesn't change the fact that Urijah Faber was to the featherweight division until 2 months ago what Matt Hughes was to the WW division when he was in his hey day. I'm not putting Pulver in my top 10 P4P, I'm talking about Faber here. Pulver is just a name on his list. How fickle the fans are in the sport of MMA. You lose one fight and everyone turns their back on you. What have you done for me lately I guess... Also I just want to address anyone who DOESN'T have FEDOR as #1... What are you smoking and where can I get some of that? I just think recently that the level of competition for guys such as GSP and Anderson Silva have been better than Fedors. Fedor is the best heavyweight on the planet by a long shot but GSP's record in UFC competition is phenomenal and the level of talent he has fought for the most time has been top notch. But I will admit that I am a bit biased towards UFC as it was what got me into MMA in the first place. If Fedor beats Barnett then he will go over Anderson in my list only because Thales Leites although top ten middleweight in UFC, is not nearly the quality as Barnett is to Fedor.
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Post by Smashin Machine on Mar 7, 2009 16:26:58 GMT -5
UFC titles held by Silva's last two opponents: None. UFC titles held by GSP's last two opponents: LW, WW UFC titles held by Fedors last two opponents: HW x3.
Sliva and GSP's competition gets a bit better if you extend it back a few fighters while Fedors drops a little bit in comparison, so if you go from like say the last five fights, it all just about evens out as far as level of competition goes.
The only thing you can really knock Fedor for in my opinion is not fighting enough. He's only fought like 4 times in about the last three years basically, and that ain't much.
For all practical purposes Fedor is undefeated in MMA. His only loss was essentially a fluke (which he later avenged anyway) coming just as much from unique circumstances as the fight itself and that was almost a decade ago. Since then he's beaten just about every single top heavyweight in the sport.
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Post by Weaver on Mar 9, 2009 12:39:27 GMT -5
1. GSP - Hate all you want, but tell me the first non-can Fedor's had in the last 2 years minus Arlovski. I'm not saying Fedor isn't the best, but GSP's had a breakneck pace and going through legit competition at his weight class.
2. Fedor Emelianenko - Fine, he's fucking astounding.
3. Miguel Torres - I love this guy. Puts on quality fights every damn time and legitimately tries VERY difficult manuevers, pulling them off with seemingly no effort.
4. Anderson Silva - Been quite a layoff for the guy after a lackluster performance against a lackluster opponent.
5. Rashad Evans - Until proven otherwise, he sits atop the most highly competitive division in the most highly competitive company... that makes him the man. I think one more emphatic win, be it over Rampage or Lyoto (assuming he can catch him) and he may be in the top 2 or 3.
6. BJ Penn - God, I hate him but fine... he's great. A great LW and had he weighed as much as George, he probably wouldn't have gotten shelacked SO bad.
7. Mike Thomas Brown - He's legit. He proved that now. And until Urijah comes back and beats him (which I'm pretty sure will happen, assuming he doesn't try any more Pro Wrestling moves) he's got the spot.
8. Thiago Alves - If you put someone in front of him, chances are very good that he's going to knock them out. A few weeks notice, a few months notice, doesn't seem to matter. He handed Koscheck his ass and gave him the Apu "Thank you, Come again." We'll see if it measures up against Rush, though.
9. Lyoto Machida - My doubts were squashed pretty quickly with his 4:59 dismantling of Thiago Silva. It was punctuated and yet, beautiful. Poetry in motion with a lightning fast cross that scrambled Silva's brain. Amazing.
10 - Shinya Aoki - This is an edit as I previously didn't have him on the list. I only realized it a few minutes ago but the guy has very slick submissions and a very impressive chin. Plus, putting down Eddie Alvarez in the first round... wow. Minus that hiccup against Hellboy, he's been on top of it.
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Post by stone on Mar 31, 2009 12:27:07 GMT -5
heres a question Torres is talking about going up as much as 20 lbs to fight at 155. if he were to reign supreme at a higher wieightclass how can you say the guy isnt at the top if not damn near.
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